Saylor's bitcoin buying strategy is wrong and people start to notice it.
"He always buys the top but never buys the dip".
"Buys the top, then does nothing".
I think WS is now always shorting into his buys, and successfully so lately, i might add.
His idea about bitcoin was generally correct, but the maniacal method in which he pursued it, much less correct or, maybe even incorrect altogether.
I think he is just buying. He doesn't care about the price, because he knows that in the (near) future it will be irrelevant.
You can call his method incorrect if you like, but I will say this: having started in Bitcoin in mid-2015, if I had applied his method in my own buying strategy over the years (i.e., buying right there and then, instead of waiting to "buy the dip"), I would now have roughly around 5x more Bitcoin than I currently have. That's 5 times more corn. This is a rough, but real calculation that I did just now. It's not guesswork.
I think he knows what he's doing.
Yep.. Even guys who have done well in bitcoin can likely go back and see that they likely would have had been better off with a strategy that involved persistent, consistent, regular, ongoing and perhaps even aggressive buying of bitcoin.
Buying the dip, or trying to fuck around with trading does not end up in anything close to the same level of aggressiveness, even if guys might have assessed themselves to have had been "aggressive" in their dip buys.
At the same time, I do have a decent amount of sympathy for some guys who might have had come to conclude that they had accumulated enough or more than enough bitcoin, even though maybe they had ended up premature in that assessment.
I probably put myself in that camp of prematurely assessing myself at overaccumulation status, since currently, I have different ways of assessing what is overaccumulation status as compared with my 2014, 2015, 2016 and even my 2017 ways of assessing such overaccumulation status. I am not suggesting that I have been greatly prejudiced in my errors, even though sometimes even successful results can be assessed and/or reassessed for the various ways that they might have had been carried out better... and I am not necessarily considering trading as any kind of a solution, since it tends to be so difficult to change our level of seriousness and/or our aggressiveness based on our perceptions of where the price is as compared with where we believe it might be going... so I suppose that I am happy with myself to the extent that my various practices and/or changes in my practices were not greatly influences based on my perceptions regarding where the price may or may not go.. even though on the margins I did sometimes tweak some of my buy/sell order amounts and/or increments based on some of those kinds of tentative ideas about tops and bottoms.
The more I talk, the more I am starting to feel that i am starting to contradict myself. Maybe I should stop, while I am ahead?
Saylor's bitcoin buying strategy is wrong and people start to notice it.
"He always buys the top but never buys the dip".
"Buys the top, then does nothing".
I think WS is now always shorting into his buys, and successfully so lately, i might add.
His idea about bitcoin was generally correct, but the maniacal method in which he pursued it, much less correct or, maybe even incorrect altogether.
I think he is just buying. He doesn't care about the price, because he knows that in the (near) future it will be irrelevant.
You can call his method incorrect if you like, but I will say this: having started in Bitcoin in mid-2015, if I had applied his method in my own buying strategy over the years (i.e., buying right there and then, instead of waiting to "buy the dip"), I would now have roughly around 5x more Bitcoin than I currently have. That's 5 times more corn. This is a rough, but real calculation that I did just now. It's not guesswork.
I think he knows what he's doing.
I think it isn’t that Saylor buys the tops and not the bottoms. I think it is that his buying causes the tops and then the death spiral machine he built lowers the price back to where there is demand.
You make no fucking sense.
Sometimes I might tentatively conclude that I had seen the dumbest shit ever, but then you figure out some ways to top it.
By the way, regarding Saylor/MSTR, many times the buys are done throughout each week and then since around September 2024 (or did he start earlier than that?) Saylor/MSTR would indicate that they were going to announce their buys from the prior week on Monday morning and preannounce with some kinds of a hint on Sunday. Since about September 2024, there have been only a few times that Saylor/MSTR skipped weekly buys and there has ONLY been a few times that Saylor/MSTR announced buys during the week rather than waiting for their Sunday/Monday pattern announcement.
So the Saylor/MSTR buys tended to happen throughout the week, and they tended to be more with the BTC price going up based on more money coming in (coming to Saylor/MSTR) from investors based on the BTC price going up... So more money coming in tended to result in more money bought during those weeks when more money was coming in.
Quite possibly. These are big players, and they play hard.
What I've learned from my Bitcoin journey of 10+ years, is this:
"Buy when you can, sell when you must."
A consequence of this:
"Don't wait, just buy at the current price."
Had I known in 2015, I'd now have 5x of my current Bitcoin stash.

Buying in 2014 was very similar to what @philipma1957 is doing now (buying as it was going down).
For some strange reason, I feel that I have to defend myself here and also to proclaim that I have my doubts that we are currently in a 2014 situation (so maybe that is indirectly defending Phillip, even though I don't want to).
You seem to be acting as if "we" (those of us involved in buying bitcoin or looking at bitcoin) knew that BTC prices were inevitably going to go down in 2014 merely because BTC prices ended up going down throughout the whole of 2014 and then getting stuck at or near the bottom for almost the whole of 2015, which surely was not the case that these things were clearly known in advance.
We also have no fucking clue if the bitcoin price is going to continue to go down right now or if the bottom might already be in. Yeah, right at this moment there seems to be quite a bit of downity pressures, yet I doubt that we can know when that is going to reverse, and do you have some kind of a bottom in mind and also a timeline for that? Do you think that we are in a bear market right now? What are the odds? and what are the ramifications? You think that I lost my bet against LFC? What odds would you give to that? I will admit that it is not looking bad for him at the moment, so I surely would not enter in such bet today, yet I still would probably give less than 40% odds that the top is in prior to April 1.. and also that still does not say where the rest of 2026 might go? Will we have any new ATH in 2026 or do we have to wait for 2027 or 2028 or some later date? This is starting to sound like a poll, no?
By 2015, i was taken aback by then lack of the price progress and stopped buying (did not sell, though).
My regret from that time is not buying more bitcoin, but not buying GBTC in Sept 2015 when i had free funds in my retirement account (buying bitcoin in ret account back then was impossible).
Yes, yes, yes... We already know that you were overly whimpy with bitcoin during those times, whether referring to actual bitcoin or paper bitcoin, and surely you likely did better than a lot of folks yet I doubt that if we heard the framework of your story that we would have ended up recognizing any meaningful level of aggressiveness. Perhaps you did not get bullish on bitcoin until 2020.. hahahahaha, even though you surely performed decently well as a relatively whimpy low coiner
(hahahahahaha I had to get that one in).. as compared to so many folks who failed/refused to get bitcoin exposure in that time between 2014 and 2020 (aka as no coiners).. .. and a decent number of them are still failing/refusing to get bitcoin exposure.
Even though you seem to have crossed over to be more of "one of us," you still seem to be challenged in your desires to hedge your bitcoin bets, as if there were better places to put time, energy and value.. but still you are surely not a lost cause and you have provided quite a bit of interesting posts to this thread over the years... so there must be some redemption in that, no?

Sorry for bulk-quoting you -- not much time available to do it properly. Also, something seems to be wrong with your quote of my last post -- Biodom appears as the author of my text. I think I fixed it above, I had to, or else part of your text appeared as if I typed it... In short, there are orphan quote tags in your post which are messing things up, and have actually caused me to lose a long reply I'd written to you... Never mind, it's OK. Re-typing a very short version below.
The thing is, most of the times I'd waited for dips and delayed my buys, I ended up missing chances and eventually buying higher. I wish I had gone all-in in 2015, when the price was $200 a coin and I was sitting on a huge heap of fiat. What did I do? I bought 0.5 BTC with $100. I did eventually convert all that fiat to BTC, but by the time I'd done it, the price had risen significantly (in the low thousands). I'm not complaining, I'm happy where I am and it could have been worse (but also better). I do understand Saylor, and I don't think he will regret his buys. Does he have an ulterior motive? A hidden agenda? Maybe, I don't know. But, for me, over-analyzing things and delaying buys, made me miss chances that never came again, like the golden 2015-2016 years.